bear
Nov 22 2004, 12:12 AM
anthonyshephard,
QUOTE
On the two occasions I did the above, I had a "stop error screen" which seems to have been caused by the new driver.
We here call this a BSOD. (Blue Screen Of Death) Saddens me to hear you get these with the new driver.
QUOTE
I haven't had these problems with the older version of the driver.
Spectrum would be best to answer this one, but have you installed the update to the 1.6 drivers mentioned earlier that resolves the stalling issue incase this is related? Also can you include some extra info such as your pc details, OS SP version and DX version as this can sometimes help. Also check some of your Bios settings related to the PCI bus delays etc. I know you have indicated that all was fine with the earlier drivers but it may give someone a clue. Also how are you hybernating, via windows or the bios settings.
rdm
Nov 22 2004, 01:53 PM
Hi Bear,
both DW and WS no don't channel lock.
Ch 7 in DW
Network_1("Seven Network", 177500, 7, 1)
Program_ 1("7 Digital" , 1328, 769, 770, 768)
Program_ 2("7 Digital 1" , 1329, 769, 770, 784)
Program_ 3("7 Digital 2" , 1330, 769, 770, 800)
Program_ 4("7 Digital 3" , 1331, 769, 770, 816)
Program_ 5("7 HD Digital" , 1332, 833, 834, 832)
Program_ 6("7 Program Guide" , 1334, 865, 866, 864)
....RDM
nate
Nov 22 2004, 02:03 PM
rdm, you could also try
ScanChannelsBDA but if DW and WS don't lock then it probably won't either.
Have you tried changing back to the 1.5.3.3 (or 1.5.3.1) drivers to check that they still work?
bear
Nov 22 2004, 03:07 PM
rdm,
My VP cards have a lock range of -125 to +240kHz@VHF, If your Ch 7 digital(ch6) has a 125khz + offset you may be on the edge of locking and the new drivers may not like this.(I say this as I know the dba website info is not up to date.)
As a test you may try and add a +/- 125kHz offset to the frequency to see if it makes any difference. I know the drivers work fine for alot of people so its strange that you would be the odd one out, but I guess stranger things have happened like in anthonyshephard's case.
rdm
Nov 22 2004, 05:13 PM
Guys, thanks for the follow up. I uninstalled all driver. Then performed a clean update. That seems to have done the trick. Thanks again....
anthonyshephard
Nov 24 2004, 06:03 AM
Hi Bear,
Thanks for the response. Which version of 1.6.0

? The later one, as the first release was unusable in my poor reception area.
I'm using WindowsXP SP2 with a DELL 4550. For further information, I've upload the sysdata.xml file that Windows generated. This seems to have loads of information on the drivers and the devices.
sysdata.zip Plus, I've grabbed the IRQs too.
IRQ picture A small amount of investigation has suggested that it is only when I put my machine on standby, i.e. start->turn off computer->standby, and then use Webscheduler to wake it up. The BSOD occurs immediately the machine wakes up (even if I give 120s wake up time in the WebScheduler settings).
I don't know how to use WebScheduler to wake the machine up from hybernate. If there is some trick, I'd be interested.
Anthony
bear
Nov 24 2004, 09:52 AM
hi Anthony,
QUOTE
I don't know how to use WebScheduler to wake the machine up from hybernate. If there is some trick, I'd be interested.
null_pointer told me this trick, in windows power option properties, under hibernate tab choose "enable hibernate", then under the power schemes tab for "always on" then set system standby to 15min and system hibernate to 30min.
This will cause the pc to power down to standby mode after 15min of inactivity, then at 30min it will power up again then hibernate. I also use the power button to hibernate the pc, on the Advanced tab under "when I press the power button" choose hibernate.
Regarding the other stuff i'll leave that for spectrum to help out, but have you had any problems using the Spectrum 1.5.3.3 or earlier drivers or is this the first?
BJReplay
Nov 24 2004, 05:47 PM
I just did a long reply that didn't stick, so in summary, in power options, change standby to never, and hibernate to your standby timeout so it never stands by, just goes straight to hibernate.
WS calls a standard windows API to wake - and it doesn't care what state - provided you can hibernate, and your PC can wake from hibernation, then if you're hibernated, WS will wake.
BJ
anthonyshephard
Nov 25 2004, 05:32 AM
bear, BJReplay,
Thanks. I use hibernate all the time, but I must admit I didn't think that software could wake up a machine from hibernate. I guess it must write something to the BIOS? Works fine and solves the immediate problem I had with the 1.6.0(2) drivers, as I don't have to suspend any more. I'm still available for more details if anyone wants to dig more into what is going on.
bear, to answer your question, I have not had any significant problems with any other drivers, all has been fine. All in all, the software I've found on this forum has been great and much much better than the standard VisionPlus software.
Cheers.
Anthony
null_pointer
Nov 25 2004, 06:24 AM
QUOTE
and much much better than the standard VisionPlus software
that would not be hard.
DAULSTA
Nov 29 2004, 12:05 AM
anyone has the same (strange) behaviour?
when scanning channels under mce 2005 with the 1.6 spectrum drivers, i get thrice the channels, i.e. when the channel bouquet is located on 834MHz, mce gets the bouquet on 833MHz and twice on 834MHz as well!
when scanning under mce with a nova-t, i only get the appropriate channel on the suggested frequency.
any idea why this might be?
Cheers, DAULSTA
JoeyBloggs
Nov 29 2004, 10:47 AM
It's been made extra sensitive for your viewing pleasure
Spectrum
Nov 30 2004, 08:19 AM
QUOTE (JoeyBloggs @ Nov 29 2004, 10:47 AM)
It's been made extra sensitive for your viewing pleasure

ROTFL
Indeed, European UHF frequencies in psisdecd.dll have +/- 133kHz offsets included. The Twinhan tuner already has a large window over which it will lock so MCE mistakenly thinks it has a new broadcast each time. I don't know why they couldn't have written it to read the true broadcast frequency from the TS and so realise it's the same broadcast.
Spectrum
SebP
Dec 3 2004, 11:59 PM
I can't seem to get Spectrum's BDA dirvers working in MCE 05. I've tried the patched 1.6 ones and although MCE detects the card when I go to scan the channels it says "The TV signal cannot be configured because the TV tuner is not available. Please restart the computer and try again." Any ideas anyone? This is a fresh install of MCE 05 btw...
DAULSTA
Dec 4 2004, 03:20 AM
QUOTE (Spectrum @ Nov 30 2004, 08:19 AM)
Indeed, European UHF frequencies in psisdecd.dll have +/- 133kHz offsets included. The Twinhan tuner already has a large window over which it will lock so MCE mistakenly thinks it has a new broadcast each time. I don't know why they couldn't have written it to read the true broadcast frequency from the TS and so realise it's the same broadcast.
so this isn't a bug in your driver but the psisdecd.dll is the culprit..? is this file a mce 2005 file?
thanks and greetings, DAULSTA
fuzzypumper
Dec 10 2004, 04:02 PM
I'm confused ! I call from clear process for getting VP card to work on MCE2005.
I know, as we all do.
I also just installed MCE 2005 and it failed to detect the Visionplus card.
From the previous posts looks like i need BDA drivers. What are DBA drivers and how do they differ from the vendor supplied drivers ?
Where's the link for the VP BDA drivers ?????
Do I also need the Spectrum mod ? Where's that link ??????
I also purchased a Microsoft MCE remote+reciever OEM package for $70 from iStore and it works a treat. It will also be easier to get the wife using the HTPC.
Help thanks.
darro
Dec 10 2004, 04:24 PM
QUOTE
What are DBA drivers and how do they differ from the vendor supplied drivers ? Where's the link for the VP BDA drivers ?????
Have a read of the FAQ.
http://forums.dvbowners.com/index.php?show...=814#BDADriversQUOTE
Do I also need the Spectrum mod ? Where's that link ??????
Have a look in this post
http://forums.dvbowners.com/index.php?show...indpost&p=21049
fuzzypumper
Dec 10 2004, 11:20 PM
Thanks .
Loaded BDA drivers :THBDADriverWHQL1212.zip and Cyberlink sPowerDVD v6.0 for the Mpeg2 DVD decoder. Configured the MCE 2005 TV config and scanned for channels. Found 26 channels (Melbourne) and now get the myTV on the menu.
Works great , but looked a bit grainy but I then remembered thats how it looks on this 17" LG flatron anyway. Records and plays back OK.
PC is a AMD 2500+ GA-7VT6001394, 512mb mem, 128mb GeCube Radeon 9200SE, 80GB ATA HDD, PIONEER 106 DVDburner, and MCE remote.
Looks good so far but still more testing to do.
Might try NVIDIAs mpeg2 decoder as well.
Thanks again.
fuzzypumper
Dec 11 2004, 01:46 PM
I have just expirienced something wierd (long pause) in MCE.
I was wahtching live tv on the VP card and then pressed stop and left the room.
When I came back the screen saver was on. After entering the password I attempted to return to run LIVE TV but I only got 1sec. of sound and no picture then MCE reports no TV signal. It also happens when PC returns from standby.
Reboot and its all OK again.
DAULSTA
Dec 17 2004, 04:59 AM
QUOTE (Spectrum @ Nov 30 2004, 08:19 AM)
QUOTE (JoeyBloggs @ Nov 29 2004, 10:47 AM)
It's been made extra sensitive for your viewing pleasure

ROTFL
Indeed, European UHF frequencies in psisdecd.dll have +/- 133kHz offsets included. The Twinhan tuner already has a large window over which it will lock so MCE mistakenly thinks it has a new broadcast each time. I don't know why they couldn't have written it to read the true broadcast frequency from the TS and so realise it's the same broadcast.
Spectrum
can this be changed? after all i do not know, what the right channel is...
it is not that it bothers me that much, but as i am currently fighting with severe reception problems, this is an issue that should be resolved to minimize the possibility of having tuned into a "wrong" channel...
Greets, DAULSTA
JoeyBloggs
Dec 17 2004, 09:34 AM
QUOTE
I don't know why they couldn't have written it to read the true broadcast frequency from the TS and so realise it's the same broadcast.
That would sort of rely on everyone putting the correct information in their TS's Even for automated repeater tranmission sites ~
However in the latest TwinHan drivers setup their seems to be a facility to disable it... THBDA.INF
CODE
; Skip scan shift frequency (+-167) - For DVB-T
; Normal
HKR,"DriverData","DisableLockShift",0x00010001, 0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00
; Disable lock shift
;HKR,"DriverData","DisableLockShift",0x00010001, 0x01,0x00,0x00,0x00
DAULSTA
Dec 20 2004, 06:55 AM
QUOTE (DAULSTA @ Dec 17 2004, 04:59 AM)
QUOTE (Spectrum @ Nov 30 2004, 08:19 AM)
QUOTE (JoeyBloggs @ Nov 29 2004, 10:47 AM)
It's been made extra sensitive for your viewing pleasure

ROTFL
Indeed, European UHF frequencies in psisdecd.dll have +/- 133kHz offsets included. The Twinhan tuner already has a large window over which it will lock so MCE mistakenly thinks it has a new broadcast each time. I don't know why they couldn't have written it to read the true broadcast frequency from the TS and so realise it's the same broadcast.
Spectrum
can this be changed? after all i do not know, what the right channel is...
it is not that it bothers me that much, but as i am currently fighting with severe reception problems, this is an issue that should be resolved to minimize the possibility of having tuned into a "wrong" channel...
Greets, DAULSTA
robert_s pointed out that for the european region, the "locking range" has to be limited to +-100 KHz. Can this be changed please? It is not only an annoying bug but leads to lock ups in mce when assigning tv programs to the channels...
Thanks in advance.
Greets, DAULSTA
GregHudson
Dec 22 2004, 08:50 PM
G'Day Spectrum.
I've just installed your drivers (v 1.6.0.0 7-11-2004)
Ran the MCE 'Scan for Services' - found 16 channels (Melbourne).
So far so good...
Attempted to view MyTV, and received a Media Center Blue Screen Of Death with the following:
Decoder Error
The vidoe decoder has either malfunctioned or is not installed.
Please restart Media Center and/or the computer.
Tried both, still get the error.
Any ideas please ?
Thanks, Greg.
darro
Dec 23 2004, 07:35 AM
Greg,
Have you installed a mpeg2 video decoder? One does not come with MCE. You need to install one of the certifed decodes, which I think are the latest powerdvd, windvd or nvidia.
Cheers
Darren
sammo2828
Dec 23 2004, 08:31 AM
Hi Spectrum!
Just to let you know that your 1.6.0(2) BDA drivers installed fine for me. Well, I don't really notice any difference between 1.5.3.3, which was working fine for me too

Keep up the good work!!
GregHudson
Dec 24 2004, 11:48 AM
QUOTE (darro @ Dec 23 2004, 07:35 AM)
Greg,
Have you installed a mpeg2 video decoder? One does not come with MCE. You need to install one of the certifed decodes, which I think are the latest powerdvd, windvd or nvidia.
Cheers
Darren
G'Day Darro.
I haven't personally installed any MPEG drivers, however PowerDVD was preinstalled on the PC when I picked it up last week. I know I shouldn't, but I 'assume' (probably incorrectly) that MPEG would have been installed at the same time.
(This also might explain why the TwinHan software would only display non-mpeg channels, and a distinct quietness!!!) ;-)
Where would I look to see if an MPEG driver is installed ?
Thanks, Greg.
GregHudson
Dec 24 2004, 11:50 AM
SPECTRUM - If you are reading this...
I uninstalled the TH software, & installed the BDA drivers, then tried to run DigitalWatch. It reported that the BDA drivers were not registered.
Can you tell me which files (if any) I would need to register please ?
Thanks, Greg.
JoeyBloggs
Dec 24 2004, 02:49 PM
Backup a step and check in the DeviceManager that the drivers are correctly installed, you shouldn't have to manually register them...
Have you installed DirectX 9.0c ?
DAULSTA
Jan 4 2005, 08:55 PM
QUOTE (JoeyBloggs @ Dec 17 2004, 09:34 AM)
QUOTE
I don't know why they couldn't have written it to read the true broadcast frequency from the TS and so realise it's the same broadcast.
That would sort of rely on everyone putting the correct information in their TS's Even for automated repeater tranmission sites ~
However in the latest TwinHan drivers setup their seems to be a facility to disable it... THBDA.INF
CODE
; Skip scan shift frequency (+-167) - For DVB-T
; Normal
HKR,"DriverData","DisableLockShift",0x00010001, 0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00
; Disable lock shift
;HKR,"DriverData","DisableLockShift",0x00010001, 0x01,0x00,0x00,0x00
allright, I managed to narrow down the locking range with the whql'd twinhan drivers by changing this line:
; Skip scan shift frequency (+-167) - For DVB-T
; Normal
HKR,"DriverData","DisableLockShift",0x00010001, 0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00
; Disable lock shift
;HKR,"DriverData","DisableLockShift",0x00010001, 0x01,0x00,0x00,0x00to this:
; Skip scan shift frequency (+-167) - For DVB-T
; Normal
HKR,"DriverData","DisableLockShift",0x00010001, 0x01,0x00,0x00,0x00
; Disable lock shift
;HKR,"DriverData","DisableLockShift",0x00010001, 0x01,0x00,0x00,0x00Now all channels are only listed once. problem there is, the drivers seems to mess with the tv content table. It crashes MCE when assigning epg data to certain channels.
i was relieved when finding out that when using the latest spectrum drivers, this strange behavior does not occur. out of curiosity i added the above mentioned lines on scan shift frequency to the *.inf files from spectrum's driver. but sadly i had no luck. i still get thrice the channel line up.
can someone / spectrum please help me how to add "DisableLockShift" to the spectrum driver?`
Thanks in advance
DAULSTA
DAULSTA
Jan 8 2005, 04:26 AM
anyone? can someone explain how to edit psisdecd.dll ? there I can at least change the frequencies that are supposedly scanned... maybe this can help..
thanx in advance, DAULSTA
squegole2
Jan 9 2005, 11:30 PM
Can BDA drivers only be installed under Windows Media Center Edition?
Nevermind, eventualy trawled through this forum and found the answer is no. Installed the drivers nicely, yet to get any application to do anything with them, though.
mrlimbo
Jan 11 2005, 06:50 AM
Are the legendry "Spectrum drivers" dead ? is 1.6 the last update ?
i ask as ive yet again uninstalled "twinhan bda drivers" including the "THBDADriver WHQL 1212" ones to install "Spectrums" 1.6 drivers
tourettes
Jan 16 2005, 11:49 PM
I tried Spectrum's BDA drivers with Nebula's PCI DVB-T card and they almost work, only thing is that the user is limited to frequency / channel set that is tuned earlier with the Nebula's own drivers. Does those two card have different tuners?
I mailed to Spectrum, but didn't get any reply.
JoeyBloggs
Jan 17 2005, 09:40 AM
IIRC the VisionPlus has a ComTech tuner and the Nebula has an ALPS. Give up now
DrP
Jan 17 2005, 10:27 AM
IIRC the VP also has a micro sitting bewteen the output of the BT and the tuner ctl lines so you aren't talking to the tuner on the VP anyway.
mccloud00
Jan 29 2005, 07:15 AM
Help, Help, Help.
Have installed Twinhan BDA 1.2.1.2 and have almost got bloddy MCE2005 to work but when i get to the scanning of the channels I have no luck.
Please could somebody help me, I'm sooooo close but I just need the final push in the right direction....
I am trying to scan for UK channels..........is there something i'm missing
JoeyBloggs
Jan 29 2005, 12:46 PM
What OS and SP's ?
mccloud00
Jan 29 2005, 07:45 PM
I'm using MCE 2005 sp2
bindacandoop
Sep 20 2005, 07:03 PM
Sorry if this is not quite the right place to ask, but do these BDA drivers support the TwinhanDTV MagicBox USB device (the bog standard one). If not, any thoughts on making them support it?
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