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SupaStar
QUOTE (renura @ Nov 9 2004, 11:40 AM)
Hi Guys,

The latest news is that we should have another version of the BDA drivers that will get around some of MCE 2005 issues and work with two cards AND with DVB-s cards as well.

Cheers

Renura

Excellent! biggrin.gif
magnetik
Nice to see Twinhan is damm keen for MCE 2005 acceptance!

If it helps my showshifter use, then im happy too!
easyman
I have the USB2 version of the Twinhan DVB-t tuner. It works great, though at the moment no multi-channel EPG listing software means I'm tring to find some software with drivers/support for it.

Twinhan USB Magic Box

Been scouring the internet trying to find BDA drivers for it to work with Showshifter or similar but no joy. Tried the drivers here but just get MS message about "Does not contain information about your hardware..."

If anyone would like to point me in the right direction on this I would much appreciate it.

P.S. It all works lovely as far as I can tell. Shedules and picture all acceptable and little overhead on the CPU.
renura
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If anyone would like to point me in the right direction on this I would much appreciate it.


Hi easyman,

To the best of my knowledge, that product is not a USB2 device, it will not be able to support HDTV and does not have BDA drivers yet. The BDA drivers for the PCI cards will not work with it, sorry.

Cheers

Renura
easyman
cheers renura, i think you may be right - it doesn't say it's a usb2 anywhere but i thought i had read that it was - bizzare.

anyway - i got this over the regular twinhan usb box thinking it was better spec (i.e.usb2 for hdtv in the future, and perhaps other hidden benifits). now i look closer i can't see much difference. are you aware of any differences/advantages of this new version over the older version?

p.s. the freeview channels transmit and encode at a rate suitable for this box to work with happily over usb1.1 - i wonder if it will manage hdtv in the future - although you seem to suggest not, i haven't found anything conclusive yet?
renura
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anyway - i got this over the regular twinhan usb box thinking it was better spec (i.e.usb2 for hdtv in the future, and perhaps other hidden benifits). now i look closer i can't see much difference. are you aware of any differences/advantages of this new version over the older version?


I am not really sure what you got, as they have put out so many many USB models:)

What I know for sure is that none of them suuports HDTV yet, but that will change very soon.

Cheers

Renura
mwnn
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I got mine working best by first installing the 1.2.0.0 drivers then updating only the DTV capture driver to 1.2.0.1


Im just about to start on the voyage of the Twinhan PCI + MCE 2005 voyage. Where can iget the above drivers from?

Thanks
SupaStar
QUOTE (mwnn @ Nov 24 2004, 08:52 AM)
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I got mine working best by first installing the 1.2.0.0 drivers then updating only the DTV capture driver to 1.2.0.1


Im just about to start on the voyage of the Twinhan PCI + MCE 2005 voyage.  Where can iget the above drivers from?

Thanks

You can get the 1.2.0.1 drivers from the link on the first page of this thread.
mwnn
Its fantastic having it all working. Got it up and running with spectrums drivers but not tried the twinhan ones. Any difference between the 2?

Very keen to see what happens with 2 cards in the unit. biggrin.gif
renura
Hi Guys,

For those that might be interested.

A new version (1.2.1.2) of the BDA drivers for the VisionPlus PCI cards is available Here.

This version support DVB-s and well as DVB-t PCI cards.

Please note - these drivers are provided as a service to the VisionPlus users' community, with no support provided from DigitalNow or myself use at your own risk

Cheers

Renura
SupaStar
QUOTE (renura @ Dec 2 2004, 09:39 PM)
Hi Guys,

For those that might be interested.

A new version (1.2.1.2) of the BDA drivers for the VisionPlus PCI cards is available Here.

This version support DVB-s and well as DVB-t PCI cards.

Please note - these drivers are provided as a service to the VisionPlus users' community, with no support provided from DigitalNow or myself use at your own risk 

Cheers

Renura

Thanks for the update Renura...looks like a fresh install is planned for my weekend biggrin.gif
DAULSTA
somebody with a dvb-s card here who would like to try the new drivers with MCE 2005???

Greets, DAULSTA
Venturer
QUOTE (renura @ Dec 2 2004, 09:39 PM)
Hi Guys,

For those that might be interested.

A new version (1.2.1.2) of the BDA drivers for the VisionPlus PCI cards is available Here.

This version support DVB-s and well as DVB-t PCI cards.

Please note - these drivers are provided as a service to the VisionPlus users' community, with no support provided from DigitalNow or myself use at your own risk 

Cheers

Renura

Renura
do these drivers support TwinHan MULTI-CARD like DVB-T and DVB-S in the same system?
renura
QUOTE
Renura
do these drivers support TwinHan MULTI-CARD like DVB-T and DVB-S in the same system?


Yes, they should.
Venturer
QUOTE (renura @ Dec 5 2004, 06:52 AM)
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Renura
do these drivers support TwinHan MULTI-CARD like DVB-T and DVB-S in the same system?


Yes, they should.

So i can install these drivers in WIndows XP Professional in a system with DVB-Ter and DVB-S Sat CI?
But there aren't applications that can support multicard except for the upcoming DNTV Live, right?
So with only the drivers i can do nothing!
magnetik
MCE 2005?
renura
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So i can install these drivers in WIndows XP Professional in a system with DVB-Ter and DVB-S Sat CI?
But there aren't applications that can support multicard except for the upcoming DNTV Live, right?
So with only the drivers i can do nothing!


Now at least we got the drivers, it's up to developers not to write applications that support DVB-s and DVB-t.

I have not tried them in MCE, I might do it if I get a chance one of these days.

Cheers

Renura
Gear
Drivers work fine in MCE with one or two VP DVB-T cards.

Jeff
renura
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Drivers work fine in MCE with one or two VP DVB-T cards.


The question is will one DVB-s and one DVB-t work?
kchambers
Confused...

Always hated setting up the visionplus card....

I have d/l bda drivers 1212 and from reading this thread there should be several .inf files for differing region - when I have d/l it there was only one .inf file - correct? just the thread never kept up I assume....

Besides the mpg decoder stuff pre-installed what else should I do before installing these bda drivers...

Wanted to play with MCE and see what it is like, but I cannot get XP to recognise the card no matter what at present - it still shows a multimedia device in the control panel with a ? mark...

If anyone can point me to the correct setup and anything else I should d/l since I have drivers everywhere now!

TIA
renura
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I have d/l bda drivers 1212 and from reading this thread there should be several .inf files for differing region - when I have d/l it there was only one .inf file - correct? just the thread never kept up I assume....


Yes these are the latest, only one INF file is required.

Go the device manager, highlight the current drivers and select update drivers and point to the loatcion where you have unzipped 1.2.1.2. Remember to do that for both video and audio controller.

Cheers

Renura
n3w-b
QUOTE (DAULSTA @ Dec 3 2004, 11:00 PM)
somebody with a dvb-s card here who would like to  try the new drivers with MCE 2005???

Greets, DAULSTA

i also need to know this. anyone?
kchambers
Renura

Thanks yet again - I am always suprised (or should I say thankful) to the very quick and accurate responses I get from you... Your attitude to customes and customer service simply excels!!!

I configured MCE 2005 and had it working within minutes of your posting... It must have been lack of sleep, because it was totally my mistake - I was trying to configure the wrong card in this machine... Forgot it had a Pinnacle Digital capture card in it, and of course nothing that I could do would make the twinhain drivers work with that!!!

Next attempt with the right drivers and the right DTV configuration - and voilla simple as!!!

Thanks again

Keith
renura
QUOTE (kchambers @ Dec 6 2004, 06:46 AM)
Renura

Thanks yet again - I am always suprised (or should I say thankful) to the very quick and accurate responses I get from you... Your attitude to customes and customer service simply excels!!!

I configured MCE 2005 and had it working within minutes of your posting... It must have been lack of sleep, because it was totally my mistake - I was trying to configure the wrong card in this machine... Forgot it had a Pinnacle Digital capture card in it, and of course nothing that I could do would make the twinhain drivers work with that!!!

Next attempt with the right drivers and the right DTV configuration - and voilla simple as!!!

Thanks again

Keith

Hi Keith,

Glad to hear it worked for you.
To see people enjoying their product is our reward smile.gif
Cheers

Renura
SupaStar
Wanted to add that I tried them over the weekend with great success! Card detected straight away and got all channels but SBS. Using the modded dll gives me SBS.

Looking forward to getting a working Guide in the near (?) future.
renura
Hi Guys,

Just to let you know that Drivers version 1.2.1.2, in the link in the first post have now received WHQL certification.

They work with DVB-t, DVB-s, DVB-c and ATSC

enjoy it

Cheers

Renura
kchambers
Thats great about the acceptance of the drivers - looks as if I waited long enough before trying this mce stuff out...

Can someone point me to the modified dll that I require - all working fine except not tuning in SBS... and had no luck in the search engine here as MCE / SBS / DLL are all 3 letter words, and the search engine appears to only like 4 letters and above!

TIA
Keith
renura
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Can someone point me to the modified dll that I require - all working fine except not tuning in SBS... and had no luck in the search engine here as MCE / SBS / DLL are all 3 letter words, and the search engine appears to only like 4 letters and above!


Hi Keith

Read around here
http://forums.dvbowners.com/index.php?showtopic=2136
You may find what you are looking for.

Cheers

Renura
SupaStar
QUOTE (renura @ Dec 6 2004, 06:09 PM)
Hi Guys,

Just to let you know that Drivers version 1.2.1.2, in the link in the first post have now received WHQL certification.

They work with DVB-t, DVB-s, DVB-c and ATSC

enjoy it

Cheers

Renura

WOW that is great. They are by far the best release to date. Installed without a hitch.
magnetik
hrm - might have to set aside time on the weekend to finally give MCE 2005 a go - just too tempting not to give it a bash now smile.gif


just gotta track down a way of getting XMLTV feeds into the mix, which seems like I has been done too - if not a little bit less than automated at this point.
SupaStar
QUOTE (magnetik @ Dec 7 2004, 01:52 PM)
just gotta track down a way of getting XMLTV feeds into the mix, which seems like I has been done too - if not a little bit less than automated at this point.

It works great but is just a little tedious to import manually. Cant wait until it is automated!! MCE will rock!
SupaStar
QUOTE (renura @ Dec 6 2004, 06:09 PM)
Hi Guys,

Just to let you know that Drivers version 1.2.1.2, in the link in the first post have now received WHQL certification.

They work with DVB-t, DVB-s, DVB-c and ATSC

enjoy it

Cheers

Renura

SUCCESS!!!! New drivers scan quickly and detect ALL channels including SBS. No modification of DLL files required!

26 services found in Melbourne! Congrats to Twinhan for finally working it all out and a big thanks to Renura for making these drivers publicly available.

I know for certain that I will be purchasing my next card from Renura!! biggrin.gif
mwnn
I made the fatal mistake of installing the twinhan drivers and cant get these new ones installed. If i uninstall the twinhans it picks it up again and wont let me install the BDAS.

Ive done a bit of a search and I cant find the thread that went into this...can anyone help or put me in the right area.

thanks
renura
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I made the fatal mistake of installing the twinhan drivers and cant get these new ones installed. If i uninstall the twinhans it picks it up again and wont let me install the BDAS.


Go the device manager, highlight the current drivers and select update drivers and point to the location where you have unzipped 1.2.1.2. Remember to do that for both video and audio controller.

Cheers

Renura
JoeyBloggs
Having just been through a similar experience on a different card wink.gif Where the simple option of upgrading as above wasn't an option.

delete the drivers out of c:\WINNT\system32\drivers
delete the drivers out of c:\WINNT\Driver Cache (if they are in there)

Delete all *.inf files with "TwinHan" in them from c:\WINNT\inf
Delete all matching *.pnf files from c:\WINNT\inf
magnetik
QUOTE (SupaStar @ Dec 7 2004, 07:35 PM)
SUCCESS!!!!    New drivers scan quickly and detect ALL channels including SBS. No modification of DLL files required!

26 services found in Melbourne!  Congrats to Twinhan for finally working it all out and a big thanks to Renura for making these drivers publicly available.

I know for certain that I will be purchasing my next card from Renura!! biggrin.gif

excellent.


and that XMLTV news is great too......


well looks like my weekend is wrapped up smile.gif
mwnn
Got them installed finally but now I have a slight problem. The twinhan software complains of an LNB error, however I can use MCE with no problems.

is this a known issue?
DAULSTA
@mwnn

so you're using the twinhan dvb-s card in mce???
mwnn
The Vison plus PCI card. Ive had a few people who have had these have the same problems as well
renura
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Got them installed finally but now I have a slight problem. The twinhan software complains of an LNB error, however I can use MCE with no problems.

is this a known issue?


The TwinHan software does not use BDA drivers, so if you are using these BDA driver you can not use TwinHan's software.
mosquito
QUOTE (renura @ Dec 6 2004, 01:09 PM)
They work with DVB-t, DVB-s, DVB-c and ATSC

Twinhan has an ATSC card? More info please!
mrlimbo
Well i must be the only person who can never get the twinan bda drivers to work,it never picks up any channels,back to my altered (8 mhz for England) spectrum 1.6 drivers yet again dry.gif
Gear
I'm sure the driver are set for aust by default in the inf.

Jeff
mrlimbo
QUOTE (Gear @ Dec 8 2004, 08:52 AM)
I'm sure the driver are set for aust by default in the inf.

Jeff

Yes ive tried changing them to 8 mhz , but as of yet ,with no success, if anyones managed to get them working in the UK,please let me know the excact changes you made to the drivers, Thanks blink.gif
JoeyBloggs
It should be a simple matter of changing thbda.inf as follows

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; Bandwidth setting for MCE channel scan - For DVB-T
; Normal
HKR,"DriverData","FixedBandwidth",0x00010001, 0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00
; Fixed as VHF 7MHz, UHF 8MHz
;HKR,"DriverData","FixedBandwidth",0x00010001, 0x01,0x00,0x00,0x00
; Fixed as 6 MHz
;HKR,"DriverData","FixedBandwidth",0x00010001, 0x06,0x00,0x00,0x00
; Fixed as 7 MHz
;HKR,"DriverData","FixedBandwidth",0x00010001, 0x07,0x00,0x00,0x00
; Fixed as 8 MHz
;HKR,"DriverData","FixedBandwidth",0x00010001, 0x08,0x00,0x00,0x00
to

QUOTE
; Bandwidth setting for MCE channel scan - For DVB-T
; Normal
;HKR,"DriverData","FixedBandwidth",0x00010001, 0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00
; Fixed as VHF 7MHz, UHF 8MHz
;HKR,"DriverData","FixedBandwidth",0x00010001, 0x01,0x00,0x00,0x00
; Fixed as 6 MHz
;HKR,"DriverData","FixedBandwidth",0x00010001, 0x06,0x00,0x00,0x00
; Fixed as 7 MHz
;HKR,"DriverData","FixedBandwidth",0x00010001, 0x07,0x00,0x00,0x00
; Fixed as 8 MHz
HKR,"DriverData","FixedBandwidth",0x00010001, 0x08,0x00,0x00,0x00
before you install them
DAULSTA
QUOTE (mwnn @ Dec 8 2004, 03:22 AM)
The Vison plus PCI card.  Ive had a few people who have had these have the same problems as well

The Vison plus-what PCI card? Is it the DVB-S or DVB-T one? In other words: do you use MCE with satellite TV or with terrestrial digital TV?

I keep asking so annoyingly because mce 2005 does not have any support for other DVB-S cards as there are supposedly no BDA drivers available.

If the twinhan VisionPlus card worked with mce, it would be the first satellite card to be working in mce....

Thanks, DAULSTA
renura
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I keep asking so annoyingly because mce 2005 does not have any support for other DVB-S cards as there are supposedly no BDA drivers available.

If the twinhan VisionPlus card worked with mce, it would be the first satellite card to be working in mce....


The BDA drivers work with DVB-t, DVB-s and DVB-c PCI cards, including (and in particular) with MCE, and yes it is the first, then again.......if you stick around here you will see many first smile.gif

EDIT: It would appear that Media Center does not support DVB-s and DVB-c, so the drivers, obviously, can not work with MC and DVB-s/c cards.
robert_s
QUOTE (renura @ Dec 8 2004, 05:01 PM)
The BDA drivers work with DVB-t, DVB-s and DVB-c PCI cards, including (and in particular) with MCE, and yes it is the first, then again.......if you stick around here you will see many first smile.gif

Can you back up that claim? Have you personally observed DVB-C or DVB-S working in MCE2005? Because I know for a fact that the MCE 2005 scanner will only accept DVB-T services and reject anything else, and there is no way for any driver to work around this.

So please don't start any rumours by making unfounded claims. Here in Germany, users are so eager to have DVB-C or DVB-S in MCE 2005 that they'll gladly pick up any such claim and yell out "It's possible! It's possible!", and it takes quite a bit of explaining to get them back down to earth (and disappoint them). So please don't do it.
JoeyBloggs
We have recently successfully tested an alpha version of UltraDTV with the TwinHan DVB-S card and the TwinHan BDA Drivers smile.gif
renura
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Can you back up that claim? Have you personally observed DVB-C or DVB-S working in MCE2005? Because I know for a fact that the MCE 2005 scanner will only accept DVB-T services and reject anything else, and there is no way for any driver to work around this.


Hi Robert_s,

I am not making any claims they are not for me to make.

I have tested the provided drivers with DVB-s and DVB-t PCI devices and a number of BDA based applications and as far as I can ascertain they work well. As far as I know these are the first BDA drivers I have seen that work with DVB-s cards.

I have no idea about DVB-C, or if MCE has got problems, TwinHan claim that they have tested DVB-s with MCE and infact they have provided INF files for MCE installation for Au/Eu and Taiwan.

They tell me that they have been certified by MS.

On the basis of the information I have, I believe their claims.

As Joey said, above, I can verify that his own fully BDA based application works fine with DVB-s devices, I see no reason why it would not work with MCE, if indeed MS has complied with its own standards.

I have made the drivers available for any one to use at their own risk and peril and try them out, I have no time or interest whatever in doing any more than what I have done in relation to this.

If you have any issues with them, don't come to me, talk to Twinhan. If you don't believe what I am saying or what they are claiming, it is entirely your prerogative.

Cheers

Renura
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