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post Aug 19 2005, 03:18 AM
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I have DW 0.725 working (sort of). If I watch TV for more than 30 secs or so the program stops responding to keyboard input and I can't task switch to other applications etc. So I tried DW 2.0.1.3 and this seems very responsive, I found all the TV channels by scanning and using the On Screen Menu. The problem is, I haven't got any picture? Sound is OK. The DW 0.725 shows pics fine, and playing back TS files recorded with Web Scheduler is OK as well. I downloaded and installed the DW Codec pack (Cyberlink and InterVideo ones) but still no joy.

Do I need to install the 3 Source codecs if I'm using BDA drivers with my Twinhan DTV Miniter card?

Any help you can offer is appreciated. (Log file attached)
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post Aug 19 2005, 10:04 AM
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Hi gedm,

As mentioned on the previous page of this thread the default video decoder is the Mpeg2Dec Filter, available here.

Otherwise you'll need to edit the MediaTypes.xml file to refer to a different decoder in the decoders.xml file.

The only reason the codec pack is still available is because it contains the source filter for the WDM drivers that isn't available from TwinHan anymore. The decoders in the codec pack are well out of date.

In the future i think i'll create an installer for DW2 that installs the Mpeg2Dec filter if it's not already installed. That should make it a bit easier for people getting set up for the first time.


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post Aug 19 2005, 09:17 PM
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QUOTE (nate @ Aug 19 2005, 10:34 AM)
Hi gedm,

As mentioned on the previous page of this thread the default video decoder is the Mpeg2Dec Filter, available here.

Otherwise you'll need to edit the MediaTypes.xml file to refer to a different decoder in the decoders.xml file.

The only reason the codec pack is still available is because it contains the source filter for the WDM drivers that isn't available from TwinHan anymore. The decoders in the codec pack are well out of date.

In the future i think i'll create an installer for DW2 that installs the Mpeg2Dec filter if it's not already installed. That should make it a bit easier for people getting set up for the first time.
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Thanks Nate. Sorry, I didn't see that info in the previous post. Doh!
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post Aug 24 2005, 01:50 AM
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how do i get the source code, links dont seem to have zip for a source tree

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post Aug 24 2005, 09:18 AM
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There's no zip of the source code. At this stage the only way to get the source is to use a subversion client. I use and recommend TortoiseSVN.

To get the latest source code Checkout
http://nate.dynalias.net/svn/DigitalWatch/trunk/

Or for a specific version just Checkout the appropriate tag
eg. http://nate.dynalias.net/svn/DigitalWatch/tags/2.0.1.3/

If you really need a zip then let me know and i'll see what i can do.


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post Sep 7 2005, 01:08 AM
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hey nate -just a quick note to say excellent work on dw 2!!!!

I have been using twinhan dtv 2.606 and have been suffering stutters and weird max headrom like effects and well as horrid audio chirps.

I saw that twin han have released new BDA drivers so I installed them then gave DW 2 a try with the intervideo codec -wow!!! My picture is smooth!
Fantastic... the new twinhan bda drivers seem to be working even better than the spectrum bda driver I tried earlier. Looking forward to the new features like recording and timeshifting..

Channel changing and navigation is the best of any tv app I have yet tried

nice work
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post Sep 7 2005, 08:09 AM
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Thanks for the positive feedback sman. Glad it's working well for you.

QUOTE (sman @ Sep 7 2005, 01:08 AM)
I saw that twin han have released new BDA drivers so I installed them then gave DW 2 a try with the intervideo codec -wow!!! My picture is smooth!
Fantastic...
I'm working on VMR9, VMR9 Windowless, and VMR9 Renderless modes now so before long there's be plenty more options to try to get that last little bit of picture improvement.

QUOTE (sman @ Sep 7 2005, 01:08 AM)
Looking forward to the new features like recording and timeshifting..
Adding recording is well down the todo list since WebScheduler does all my recording. But you never know, someone else might want to implement it.
The plan for Timeshifting is to extend TSFileSource to create a timeshifting system that can timeshift the entire transport stream. So there's still a bit of work to be done there.

QUOTE (sman @ Sep 7 2005, 01:08 AM)
Channel changing and navigation is the best of any tv app I have yet tried
I agree, but then i don't use the mouse. After i've done the mouse stuff it will be fantastic.

One foot after the other, and onward we go. smile.gif


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post Sep 15 2005, 09:51 AM
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QUOTE (nate @ Sep 7 2005, 08:09 AM)
I agree, but then i don't use the mouse. After i've done the mouse stuff it will be fantastic.
I agree because I use the mouse as a remote.
What I like about this software is:
- It's free to use.
- There's support for the product.
- The ability to set separate filters for different media ie. one for MPEG-Audio and another for AC3 audio.
- The software is quite stable (haven't had it crash on me yet)
- Picture is quite stable (not much jitter).
- I can receive SBS in Sydney.

If it had mouse support then I would just settle on using this TV viewer.

The other features I've mentioned elsewhere (signal strength meter, Now and Next) are just nice to have, but the mouse remote is high on my feature list.
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cricri
post Sep 16 2005, 03:05 AM
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Hello,

I have a Pinnacle 310i DVB-T (hybrid tuner), under Win XP SP2, I could tune all the channels (living in France near Paris) by modifying the frequencies and bandwidths, but nothing is displayed except the OSD stuff ...
I have installed the mpeg2DecFilter as readden previously, also tried the DScaler, but still the same even after modifying the mediaTypes.xml files.
I have checked the logfile and no error.
I have also tried to change the desktop resolution to a more standard resolution ( 1024 x 768 instead of 1152 x 864), but no more luck ..

any help would be appreciated.

QUOTE
DigitalWatch starting
Build - v2, 0, 1, 3
Restoring last window position. x=0 y=0 width=1152 height=864
Restoring fullscreen state
Initialising DirectDraw
Enumerating Primary DirectDraw devices
Found device: 0 "display" "Pilote d'affichage principal"
Enumerating Attached DirectDraw devices
Found device: 0 "display" "Pilote d'affichage principal"
Found device: 65537 "\\.\DISPLAY1" "RADEON 9800 (Omega 2.5.44) "
Enumerating Detached DirectDraw devices
Found device: 0 "display" "Pilote d'affichage principal"
Enumerating DirectDraw devices
Found device: 0 "display" "Pilote d'affichage principal"
Found device: 65537 "\\.\DISPLAY1" "RADEON 9800 (Omega 2.5.44) "
Creating DirectDraw screens
Creating DirectDrawScreen: 65537 "\\.\DISPLAY1" "RADEON 9800 (Omega 2.5.44) " monitor(0, 0, 1152, 864)
Loading OSD file: D:\TV\TNT\DW-2.0.1.3\OSD.xml
Loading XML file: D:\TV\TNT\DW-2.0.1.3\OSD.xml
Finished Loading XML file: D:\TV\TNT\DW-2.0.1.3\OSD.xml
Initialising TVControl
Loading Keys file: D:\TV\TNT\DW-2.0.1.3\Keys.xml
Loading XML file: D:\TV\TNT\DW-2.0.1.3\Keys.xml
Finished Loading XML file: D:\TV\TNT\DW-2.0.1.3\Keys.xml
Loading Keys from XML
Finished loading keys from XML
Finished loading keys file
Initialising DWGraph
Loading Decoders file: D:\TV\TNT\DW-2.0.1.3\Decoders.xml
Loading XML file: D:\TV\TNT\DW-2.0.1.3\Decoders.xml
Finished Loading XML file: D:\TV\TNT\DW-2.0.1.3\Decoders.xml
Loading Media Types file: D:\TV\TNT\DW-2.0.1.3\MediaTypes.xml
Loading XML file: D:\TV\TNT\DW-2.0.1.3\MediaTypes.xml
Finished Loading XML file: D:\TV\TNT\DW-2.0.1.3\MediaTypes.xml
Finished Initialising DWGraph
Added Source - BDA
Starting command processing thread
Finished Initialising TVControl
Queue Command 'Key(13, 0, 0, 0)'
TVControl Execute 'Key(13, 0, 0, 0)'
TVControl::ExecuteGlobalCommand - Key(13, 0, 0, 0)
TVControl::Key - ENTREE (13)
TVControl Execute 'Select()'
TVControl::ExecuteGlobalCommand - Select()
DWOnScreenDisplay::ExecuteCommand - Select()
TVControl Execute ' ExitMenu(-1) SetSource(BDA) '
TVControl::ExecuteGlobalCommand - ExitMenu(-1)
TVControl::ExecuteGlobalCommand - SetSource(BDA)
Initialising BDA Source
Loading DVBT Channels file: D:\TV\TNT\DW-2.0.1.3\BDA_DVB-T\Channels.xml
Loading XML file: D:\TV\TNT\DW-2.0.1.3\BDA_DVB-T\Channels.xml
Finished Loading XML file: D:\TV\TNT\DW-2.0.1.3\BDA_DVB-T\Channels.xml
Finished Loading DVBT Channels file: D:\TV\TNT\DW-2.0.1.3\BDA_DVB-T\Channels.xml
Loading DVBT Frequency List file: D:\TV\TNT\DW-2.0.1.3\BDA_DVB-T\FrequencyList.xml
Loading XML file: D:\TV\TNT\DW-2.0.1.3\BDA_DVB-T\FrequencyList.xml
Finished Loading XML file: D:\TV\TNT\DW-2.0.1.3\BDA_DVB-T\FrequencyList.xml
Finished Loading Frequency List file: D:\TV\TNT\DW-2.0.1.3\BDA_DVB-T\FrequencyList.xml
Loading BDA DVB-T Cards file: D:\TV\TNT\DW-2.0.1.3\BDA_DVB-T\Cards.xml
Loading XML file: D:\TV\TNT\DW-2.0.1.3\BDA_DVB-T\Cards.xml
Finished Loading XML file: D:\TV\TNT\DW-2.0.1.3\BDA_DVB-T\Cards.xml
Card - Active
Pinnacle PCTV 310i BDA DVBT Tuner
@device:pnp:\\?\pci#ven_1131&dev_7133&subsys_002f11bd&rev_d0#3&61aaa01&0&68#{71985f48-1ca1-11d3-9cc8-00c04f7971e0}\{3ff44ee5-8547-402a-94f3-d447f4d7c400}
Pinnacle PCTV 310i BDA Digital Capture
@device:pnp:\\?\pci#ven_1131&dev_7133&subsys_002f11bd&rev_d0#3&61aaa01&0&68#{fd0a5af4-b41d-11d2-9c95-00c04f7971e0}\{5bb3dbd0-9e1e-424c-9281-6b5e7109f100}
Finished Loading BDA DVB-T Cards file
Checking for new BDA DVB-T Cards
Tuner - Pinnacle PCTV 310i BDA DVBT Tuner
@device:pnp:\\?\pci#ven_1131&dev_7133&subsys_002f11bd&rev_d0#3&61aaa01&0&68#{71985f48-1ca1-11d3-9cc8-00c04f7971e0}\{3ff44ee5-8547-402a-94f3-d447f4d7c400}
This tuner was loaded from file
Finished Checking for new BDA DVB-T Cards
Saving XML file: D:\TV\TNT\DW-2.0.1.3\BDA_DVB-T\Cards.xml
Finished Initialising BDA Source
Playing BDA Source
Building Graph (474166, 8)
Stopping DW Graph
Finished Stopping DW Graph
Unloading Tuner
Finished Unloading Tuner
Cleaning up DW Graph
Finished Cleaning up DW Graph
Loading Tuner
Finished Loading Tuner
Adding Demux Pins
Creating pin: PID=160 Name="Video"
Creating pin: PID=80 Name="Audio"
Rendering stream of type "MPEG Audio" with decoder "MPEG Audio Decoder"
Finished Adding Demux Pins
Starting DW Graph
Reference Clock is "DW MPEG-2 Demultiplexer"
Finished Starting DW Graph
Finished Setting Channel
Finished Execute : 0
Finished Execute : 0
Finished Execute : 0
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post Sep 16 2005, 03:31 AM
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Forgot to tell that I can hear the sound wink.gif
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post Sep 16 2005, 10:56 AM
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there should be a "Rendering stream ..." line after the video pin is created
eg.
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Creating pin: PID=160 Name="Video"
Rendering stream of type "MPEG2 Video" with decoder "Mpeg2Dec Video Decoder"
Creating pin: PID=80 Name="Audio"
Rendering stream of type "MPEG Audio" with decoder "MPEG Audio Decoder"

There could be a few reasons that it's not appearing.

Make sure the name in the decoder tag in MediaTypes.xml matches the name from decoders.xml exactly, copy and paste it to be sure.

If that still doesn't work then you could try removing all the decoders from decoders.xml that you're not using. Perhaps there's a parsing error and the decoders aren't being read in properly.

EDIT:
Oh, I forgot to say. You could also try re-extracting mediatypes.xml and decoders.xml from the zip file. If you've got the Mpeg2Dec filter installed then they should work straight up.


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post Sep 17 2005, 05:28 PM
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Thanks Nate, I just copy and Past the decoder name and it works ! smile.gif
I just had a freeze once when changing channel by the up key, I had to close the program, but afterwards when I tried to relaunch the program nothing happened ... and the log was empty ...
I could use other program like BDATest, but not DigitalWatch, I had to reboot to make it working again.

I also wonder how to change network, I press Enter, select network, but it is still the same channels which are display when I press up or down key. What do I miss ?

Last question, it seems new channels are coming in France, there are detected with BDATest, but not display, I am not sure, but maybe because they are mpeg4 encoded, but not detected with DigitalWatch.
I may have a try with ScanChannel to see ...
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post Sep 17 2005, 06:01 PM
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I am wrong ... the channels have been tuned correctly as they are included in the channel file ...
and page-up/down are changing network, not channels ...
But I can not find how to change channels, keypad 0-9 does nothing but is not displayed in OSD, and key-number on the main keyboard does the same as well ...
I search ...
...
Found the tips on another thread, add 2 keys for switching between channels wink.gif
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post Sep 17 2005, 06:56 PM
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hello cricri,

can you confirm that for the channels not being listed in DigitalWatch you do not have any any video stream pid returned by the MPEG2-demultiplexer ?
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post Sep 18 2005, 12:06 AM
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I am not sure ... here is the content of the channel.xml for this network :
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<Network Frequency="522166" Bandwidth="8" OriginalNetworkId="0x20FA" TransportStreamId="0x3" NetworkId="0x20FA" Name="réseau numérique terrestre français">
<Service serviceId="0x301" name="Canal+" LCN="4">
<Stream PID="0x78" Active="1" Type="MPEG-2 Audio" />
<Stream PID="0xAA" Active="1" Type="Video" />
</Service>
<Service serviceId="0x3F1" name="TMM">
<Stream PID="0x537" Active="1" Type="Unknown" />
</Service>
<Service serviceId="0x3F0" name="">
<Stream PID="0x42B" Active="1" Type="Unknown" />
</Service>
<Service serviceId="0x305" name="Canal+ Test">
<Stream PID="0xA4" Active="1" Type="Unknown" />
<Stream PID="0x60" Active="1" Type="MPEG-2 Audio" />
<Stream PID="0x61" Active="1" Type="MPEG-2 Audio" />
<Stream PID="0x2C" Active="1" Type="Teletext" />
</Service>
<Service serviceId="0x304" name="PLANETE">
<Stream PID="0xA3" Active="1" Type="Unknown" />
<Stream PID="0x5C" Active="1" Type="MPEG-2 Audio" />
</Service>
<Service serviceId="0x303" name="Canal+ Sport">
<Stream PID="0xA2" Active="1" Type="Unknown" />
<Stream PID="0x58" Active="1" Type="MPEG-2 Audio" />
<Stream PID="0x59" Active="1" Type="MPEG-2 Audio" />
<Stream PID="0x26" Active="1" Type="Teletext" />
</Service>
<Service serviceId="0x302" name="CANAL+ CINEMA">
<Stream PID="0xA1" Active="1" Type="Unknown" />
<Stream PID="0x54" Active="1" Type="MPEG-2 Audio" />
<Stream PID="0x55" Active="1" Type="MPEG-2 Audio" />
<Stream PID="0x23" Active="1" Type="Teletext" />
</Service>
</Network>
And with ScanChannelsBDA :

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# locked 522166, 8 signal locked = Y present = Y strength = 0 quality = 100

Network_1("rÚseau numÚrique terrestre franþais", 0, 8, 1)
Program_ 1("CANAL+" , 769, 170, 120, 1280) # LCN=4
Program_ 2("CANAL+ TEST" , 773, 0, 96, 1284) # Teletext=44
Program_ 3("CANAL+ TEST" , 773, 0, 97, 1284) #
Program_ 4("PLANETE" , 772, 0, 92, 1283) #
Program_ 5("CANAL+ SPORT" , 771, 0, 88, 1282) # Teletext=38
Program_ 6("CANAL+ SPORT" , 771, 0, 89, 1282) #
Program_ 7("CANAL+ CINEMA" , 770, 0, 84, 1281) # Teletext=35
Program_ 8("CANAL+ CINEMA" , 770, 0, 85, 1281) #
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post Sep 18 2005, 03:42 AM
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I have a question, some channels are in 16/9, some other in 4/3 ...
Is it possible to define the aspect ratio per channel ?
I tried but without success sad.gif
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post Sep 19 2005, 12:30 PM
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QUOTE (cricri @ Sep 17 2005, 05:28 PM) *
I just had a freeze once when changing channel by the up key, I had to close the program, but afterwards when I tried to relaunch the program nothing happened ... and the log was empty ...
I could use other program like BDATest, but not DigitalWatch, I had to reboot to make it working again.
Perhaps the old DigitalWatch.exe was still running in the background. If memory serves DigitalWatch won't start up if another instance is already running.

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I also wonder how to change network, I press Enter, select network, but it is still the same channels which are display when I press up or down key. What do I miss ?

Found the tips on another thread, add 2 keys for switching between channels wink.gif
You can also press the right arrow when the list is up to show the services for the currently highlighted network. I guess it's not that obvious if you don't know about it.

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Last question, it seems new channels are coming in France, there are detected with BDATest, but not display, I am not sure, but maybe because they are mpeg4 encoded, but not detected with DigitalWatch.
I may have a try with ScanChannel to see ...
You can check the scanning.log file to see what DW2 is detecting in it's scan. DW2 won't detect MPEG-4 video. I would need a transport stream with some MPEG-4 video in it to add support for it.

QUOTE (cricri @ Sep 18 2005, 03:42 AM) *
I have a question, some channels are in 16/9, some other in 4/3 ...
Is it possible to define the aspect ratio per channel ?
I tried but without success sad.gif
No. At the moment you'll have to manually change it by creating key assignments
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<Key code='W'>AspectRatio(16, 9)</>
<Key code='N'>AspectRatio(4, 3)</>

In the next version it should automatically detect aspect ratio so you won't have to worry about it. You'll still be able to override the AR if need be, but it won't be on a per channel basis.


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post Sep 19 2005, 06:26 PM
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Thank you for the tips, I'll add the 2 keys to change aspect ratio.
For the new channels it seems to be MPEG-4 H264, I do not know if some transport exists for it ...
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post Sep 19 2005, 09:40 PM
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QUOTE (cricri @ Sep 19 2005, 06:26 PM) *
For the new channels it seems to be MPEG-4 H264, I do not know if some transport exists for it ...
Creating a transport steam is easy. All you need to do is a Full TS capture with Web Scheduler. The problem is that the capture files get big quickly.


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I do have a ts with 3 H264 channels although only 1 is exposed in the Programs PID (3 because TSReader shows up the badwidth use).
so, where can i drop it ? it "only" has 45Megs
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