Live Streaming To Media Player, Software needed for recording/streaming Options

[grobinson]

In my everlasting quest to stream live or near-live TV from my Fusion card to my media player, I need some software that will record (or stream) the video in mpeg format. The Fusion software would be perfect (with "Capture Native MPEG" option) except that the recorded file is not available to other apps until the recording is finished. I'd like to start streaming ASAP after starting the recording.

I had a quick go with DigitalWatch and the TV viewer off DVBPortal but both had difficulty finding the Fusion card. My OS is XP Home so MCE is not an option at present either. Any suggestions or advice on running DW or DVBPortal to achieve my aim, or any other solutions would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers,
Grant

[nate]

Do you need to be able to see the tv on the server aswell? If not, I'd suggest using WebScheduler. Either get a version prior to 3.1.1 that supports the mpeg mux option, or use the current version with with DVBQtoMPG to convert to mpeg on the fly as it records.

[grobinson]

Do you need to be able to see the tv on the server aswell? If not, I'd suggest using WebScheduler. Either get a version prior to 3.1.1 that supports the mpeg mux option, or use the current version with with DVBQtoMPG to convert to mpeg on the fly as it records.

Thanks Nate. I don't wan to wathch it on the PC, just record it so I the media server can stream it to the player.

I've got an old WS version (2.14.0.0!) but I think I'll see if I can get something a little later off the website, but prior to 3.1.1. I uninstalled it when I finally got my recoding of ts files (so I can play them on the media player) sorted out. The player also happily streams audio and video off the web. Now the last frontier is to stream the digital TV (without having to wait for the recording to finish).

Thanks again.

Cheers,
Grant

[grobinson]

Tried WS and can record the ts file and tried to stream it via VLC for the media server to pick up via URL. But I can't seem to get VLC and the server to "talk". If graphedit can read the stream, then the server will read it, but graphedit won't take the stream either. Don't know whether it's me or VLC.

I did find another way, which I posted at TVersity too. Having a dual monitor graphics card, I take the TV out of the graphics and feed it to the Fusion capture in where I record the capture as an mpg in a shared folder that the server sees. It's a "dumb" solution, but it works consistently. I only have to export/import the video as I can mix the video TV caputre in with the audio wave output from the TV in the recorded mpg.

Any ideads why did the mpg mux got dropped from WS? Any chance it may come back?

Cheers,
Grant

[bear]

Tried WS and can record the ts file and tried to stream it via VLC for the media server to pick up via URL. But I can't seem to get VLC and the server to "talk". If graphedit can read the stream, then the server will read it, but graphedit won't take the stream either. Don't know whether it's me or VLC.

Does your Network media player support DVB Transport streams? Have you tried converting the .ts files to mpg to see if they work? Also make sure that your Windows firewall has exceptions for the port address your using.

Any ideads why did the mpg mux got dropped from WS? Any chance it may come back?

I think it was dropped because there was no open source support for a suitable MPGMux filter and using third party filters was frowned upon. I think it is unlikely unless a open source mux filter becomes available.

This is why DVBQtoMPG has become a more popular method for those that rely upon .mpgs as it can convert and compress on the fly as WS records.

[grobinson]

Does your Network media player support DVB Transport streams?

No. It's a D-Link DSM-320 - I gather one of the first media players out with audio and video. Promised much but it's finicky about what it will play. Newer players have a broader coverage of formats but the technology still has a lot of problems. For the DSM, even ts converted to mpeg needs to be a "clean" file or else the video stutters because (I gather) of timing issues with the DVB mpeg - e.g. Channel 7. TVersity media server software will transcode some formats other than mpeg on the fly - but not ts files yet.

Have you tried converting the .ts files to mpg to see if they work? Also make sure that your Windows firewall has exceptions for the port address your using.

Yes the mpeg files work nicely after a bit of massaging. I run mine through ProjectX with ts output to fix frame drop errors in the recorded ts file (that cause audio sync problems when converted to mpeg if not fixed first), then use NeroVision to convert the fixed ts file to smooth mpeg-2 with DD5.1 audio or whatever was in the stream. It's pretty quick but I gather VideoReDo does this last part very quickly without re-coding - just fixes the mpg timing which is something ProjectX doesn't do when it converts ts to mpeg.

I think it was dropped because there was no open source support for a suitable MPGMux filter and using third party filters was frowned upon. I think it is unlikely unless a open source mux filter becomes available.

This is why DVBQtoMPG has become a more popular method for those that rely upon .mpgs as it can convert and compress on the fly as WS records.

I'll have to give it a try. As mentioned above, my biggest headaches in going straight from ts to mpeg have been the dropped video frames causing audio sync problems, and the mpg video stuttering (I see things in forums about GOP lengths and Channel 7 timing issues that may cause this - all I know is it stutters on playback).

If DVBQtoMPG can do all that in one go, I'll be amazed!! My other attempts to convert the WS ts file on the died badly (and embarrassingly) because the converter converts faster than the recorder (duh!).

Thanks for the tip. I'll check out DVBQtoMPG.

Cheers,
Grant

[grobinson]

SUCCESS! Check out this thread http://forums.dvbowners.com/index.php?showtopic=4057

Cheers,
Grant

[hackkira]

Do you charge to be able to see the tv on the server aswell? If not, I'd advance application WebScheduler. Either get a adaptation above-mentioned to 3.1.1 that supports the mpeg mux option, or use the accepted adaptation with with DVBQtoMPG to catechumen to mpeg on the fly as it records.

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